This week Patrick is guest on Tyson Yunkaporta’s podcast The Other Others, which went live yesterday.

In Tyson’s words this is an “[i]ntimate yarn between two friends from two different families, cultures and online communities who ended up in… let’s say incompatible algorithms, during Covid lockdowns, resulting in horrendously oppositional worldviews. Nothing we can’t sort out with a good yarn. Because a yarn is almost like a ‘conversation’ but without the bullshit. Nobody is ‘just asking questions’ in a yarn, because you talk from your relation, not your position. The end result is not a resolution, compromise or any of that crap. It’s… nah I’ll let you listen through and find out for yourself.”

In Patrick’s words: “Our yarn was a frustrating misfiring of truths and beliefs with love, brotherhood and cheekiness all wrapped up into one long moment of trust rekindling.”

We’re grateful for Tyson reaching out with curiosity. It was great to reconnect our families. There’s so much more Patrick would liked to have raised, such as, how we can speak about Russian disinfo without speaking American disinfo and bringing into the mix the Industrial Censorship Complex that’s sprung from various US colonialisms – media, military, medicine, etc. We are relieved, however, that Tyson sees the overprescription of pharmaceutical products as a real thing and that medical fascism is on the rise, although that topic was cut off with the practicalities of him having to leave for school pickup.

So here’s the yarn, unedited and as raw as it was co-created.

In audio:

And from YouTube (we’re working on fixing CommonsTube):

Your comments and curiosities are always welcome, Dear Reader. Thanks for taking the time to engage with this post.